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Earl Scarelet
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Posted - 2009.09.17 15:26:00 -
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Edited by: Earl Scarelet on 17/09/2009 15:36:07
Edited by: Earl Scarelet on 17/09/2009 15:31:41
Edited by: Earl Scarelet on 17/09/2009 15:30:05
Machariel-
Slot lay out-7/5/7 missile hard point 4,no turret
100% Torpedo and Cruise missile dmg
10% agility bonus per Gal BS skill lvl.
10% max velocity bonus per Min BS skill lvl.
125drone bay with 125 bandwidth..
This!!! 
Minmatar meant to be speedy then make it speedy..
Or just leave the tracking bonus alone with current version and just fix the drone bandwith/bay to 125/125 then some other fixing..
Like-
Machriel-
Slot lay out-8/5/7 - 6turret point /6missile point.
25% to project turret dmg(lowers your dps abit but save your cargo from ammunation)
5% to project tureet dmg
drone bandwith 125 drone bay 125
 
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Earl Scarelet
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Posted - 2009.09.17 15:39:00 -
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 Originally by: Linas IV
Edited by: Linas IV on 17/09/2009 15:33:47
Originally by: Earl Scarelet
Machariel-
Slot lay out-7/5/7 missile hard point 4,no turret
100% Torpedo and Cruise missile dmg
10% agility bonus per Gal BS skill lvl.
10% max velocity bonus per Min BS skill lvl.
125drone bay with 125 bandwidth..
Want back the old Nano-Mach, eh? ^^
Its pretty awesome as it is on sisi.
Well to be honest I want to so much...
But you know what the MWD like nowadays.. And the snake set... Fleet bonus...
You can at most reach 2400m/s.. Well still sounds crazy but yeah definitely not as crazy as the old days 8))
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Earl Scarelet
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Posted - 2009.09.20 06:37:00 -
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Edited by: Earl Scarelet on 20/09/2009 06:45:43
Edited by: Earl Scarelet on 20/09/2009 06:39:56
Originally by: Seishi Maru
Originally by: Xellss
Edited by: Xellss on 18/09/2009 18:05:48
Please CCp explain why did the tracking bonus on the macherial get replaced with a redundant fall off bonus. This bonus is to put it bluntly F**king useless in pvp, Maelstrum is living proof of that. The tracking bonus is what made the macherial for pvp. The abiltiy to fit large autos and have similar tracking to electron blaster cannons.
If she's not going to retain the tracking bonus, explain to me this what exactly makes her different from a fleet issue tempest, because an extra 5km in fall off does not cut it for me in pvp and for pve, well thats what the vargur is best at :)
aff why in hell so many peopple have NOT CLUE on how to fight with a speed ship?
You use speed to control RANGE. so RANGE advantage means everything...
notice how vagabond has a flloff bonus not a stupid trackign bonus like the munin? Now check wich ones is the speed boat of the 2....
Well the fact is this speedy ship is a BS not a Vaga.. Vagas can do 4k/s to overrun most targets and kill inties with the tracking of medium AC then get away in one piece.. If you didn't make it and his buddies in T1 plated Cruisers jumped on you and started orbiting... At least you're still able to bite back with the tracking till you fall...
When it become a Machariel.. inties come, get you scramed ,mwd's off , you got jumped by T1 Cruisers. and without the tracking bonus you found your guns firing so hard but hitting ****...
Always remember no one wanna one on one against a shinny ship that might be holy pimped, You are always being set uped thus you are not keeping your range and so the fall off bonus becomes a joke.
And finaly.. the concept Speedy BS it self become a joke especially when it's a faction one costing over a bil... unless it's either remarkablely speedy that can really do something against fast tackles or it is bit more speedy than others(faction BS) but still can tank'gank pretty well.
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Earl Scarelet
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Posted - 2009.09.20 11:41:00 -
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Edited by: Earl Scarelet on 20/09/2009 11:42:56
Well the fact is this speedy ship is a BS not a Vaga.. Vagas can do 4k/s to overrun most targets and kill inties with the tracking of medium AC then get away in one piece.. If you didn't make it and his buddies in T1 plated Cruisers jumped on you and started orbiting... At least you're still able to bite back with the tracking till you fall...
When it become a Machariel.. inties come, get you scramed ,mwd's off , you got jumped by T1 Cruisers. and without the tracking bonus you found your guns firing so hard but hitting ****...
Always remember no one wanna one on one against a shinny ship that might be holy pimped, You are always being set uped thus you are not keeping your range and so the fall off bonus becomes a joke.
And finaly.. the concept Speedy BS it self become a joke especially when it's a faction one costing over a bil... unless it's either remarkablely speedy that can really do something against fast tackles or it is bit more speedy than others(faction BS) but still can tank'gank pretty well(Which is no point to make against pure gank one).
Well if you make a speed chart you will notice this fat BS is faster than anything bulkier than a vagabond. And you still have 1 high slot to use a deadspace neutralzier (or you will use a t2 one in a 1.6Bil isk ship?). This alone makes anythign that can tackle you... you can neutralize. That alone makes that most hacs etc will try to keep range from a BS (or do you usually see HAcs throwing themselves at web range from a tempest..? .. one of the stupidiest things a Hac could do.... being able to reach the targets that are at 20-25 km is a BLESS! If for any reason you need MORE tracking.. fit dual 425mm and a target painter...
No one going to use ANY of the faction BS in large groups. They will always be used by small groups to fight small very small groups. Even on the scale of 2v2 3v3
On these scenarios thew new Mach is excelent and the falloff bonus is amazing.
Well do u know that 2/2 or 3/3 is nothing but a laugh..? And have u even ever heard of ALT JUMPs? You never know exactly how many oppents your gonna face till they show up from shadow. Couple tacker can't be all neuted.. Since u already know faction BS don't fly in large scale, then you know you have bigger chance to be out numbered.. then again. Mostly you never fly a billion ship to a belt unless your a pure dumb or you are in a big hurry to die. Gate fight/station fight is where those Shinny ships are used, where you don't really wanna run around or keep a range cause you might never ever be able to come back to dock/jump again if needed...
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Earl Scarelet
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Posted - 2009.09.21 06:11:00 -
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Edited by: Earl Scarelet on 21/09/2009 06:10:58
Hello I tired to give attribute and bonus to those faction battleships in my own way possibly adding a E-war bonus to each race.
I know lot of you are going to give a laugh on it. But IÆm doing it just for discussion and fun to see what your thoughts are.
Cheers-.
Rattlesnake-
Slot û 6/8/4 4- missile points.
Bonus:
Pirate: 100% bonus to torpedo and cruise missile damage
Caldari: 10% bonus to torpedo and cruise missile velocity per level
Gallante: 10% bonus to warp disruptor/scrambler range
Drone: 75Mbit bandwidth with 75m3 drone bay
Nightmare-
Slot û 6/6/6 4-turret points.
Bonus:
Pirate: 100% bonus to large energy turret damage.
Amarr: 7.5% bonus to armor resistance
Caldari: 20% bonus to racial E.C.M strength.
Drone: 0Mbit bandwidth with 0m3 drone bay(No drones available)
Bhaalgorn-
Slot û 6/5/7 4-turret points.
Bonus:
Pirate: 100% large energy turret damage
Amarr: 15% bonus to energy emission system drain amount
Minmatar: 20% bonus to stasis web effective range
Drone: 75Mbit bandwidth with 74m3 drone bay.
Vindicator-
Slot- 6/5/7 4-turret points.
Bonus:
Pirate: 100% bonus to large hybrid turret damage
Gallante: 5% bonus to large hybrid turret damage
Minmatar: 10% bonus to stasis web effective strength.
Drone: 125Mbit bandwidth with 125m3 drone bay.
Machariel-
Slot- 6/6/6 2-missile points 2- turret points
Bonus:
Pirate: 150% bonus to large project turret and missile damage
Minmatar: 20% bonus target painter strength.
Gallante: 5% Bonus to M.W.D speed boost
Drone: 0Mbit bandwidth with 0m3 drone bay. ( No drones available)
Yes I know they're overpowered but it's the way that we can see more of those shinny ships on battlefield but carebearing in high sec,no?
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